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$0 CAC, 1,000 email subscribers, and a 56% open rate... here's how

Hey everyone,

I recently have been building a weekly startup idea newsletter called ExplodingIdeas.co and got my first 1,000 subscribers in 12 days!

I used 0 paid ads! All subscribers were totally free!

Fast forward to the end for the takeaways...

Backstory

Since January I have been testing out new side hustle/business ideas. I essentially start with a landing page (coded in nextjs) and try out different ideas on the landing page template i’ve built. The landing page has a high conversion rate so I just templatized it for all the different ideas I tested.

Here are some of the business ideas I've tested since January.

Podcast advertising marketplace
AI Chrome Extension
NFT analytics website SaaS
Discord newsletter signup bot

I killed all of those ideas. None of them had the momentum that I hoped for to consider success. The AI chrome extension went viral on reddit and indie hackers but it was hype driven and I only got around 150 active users (about 1,100 web visitors). For the other ideas I got a couple signups here and there but nothing overwhelming, til now.

Disclosure: I have had a couple successful bootstrapped businesses in the past. I sold one, and still hold the other. The one that I currently hold takes advantage of a market inefficiency that I was able to identify through market research 5 years ago. I tested it with $50 and it’s now pretty sizable. When testing new ideas I fully bootstrap them, meaning I’m not propping them up with money I've made in other areas of my life, I find that gives a false sense of success that is unsustainable. Instead, I give myself a budget of under $1000 to test the market and I do not promote to users of other businesses I have. The product needs to stand 100% on its own and be bootstrappable. This product specifically was tested for $60.07. I bought Gsuite, an email address, 2 web domains (wasn’t sure which to go with). I did all the art design etc. myself mostly using the free tier on midjourney AI. I went to college for music so i’m not a school trained programmer, I just learned design, code etc. online over the last few years.

The Idea

Basically I am always looking for new ideas to test and potentially build businesses around. I subscribe to trends, meetglimpse, trendhunter, semrush etc.

My biggest issue with the current players out there is that for me they lean into content that I don’t care about (pushing their facebook communities, community member interviews etc) and the content is just not strong enough. The amount of market research I do on a project by project basis is way deeper than these products offer. I need deep research with serious thought behind it if I'm going to test a new idea, not surface level ideas with 5 minutes of research.

A few years ago I worked for a large fortune 500 corporate company and at one point the CEO backed one of my business ideas internally (I got no equity unfortunately). I was then promoted to focus 100% of my time at the company writing business proposals about different market opportunities we could exploit and would pitch them at a sporadic cadence to the Chief Counsel and executive team. So I've done market research before for myself successfully, as well as for a major organization successfully. (for those wondering, I started at that company as a temp, I learned how to put together market research from reading a lot of books, interviews, youtube and just listening in company meetings).

So I decided to test this new idea out to see if others were interested too. I essentially decided I could provide market research on business ideas in emerging niches and put it out for people to read.

Testing

To test the idea I went into side hustle Facebook groups and posted about the site. Some of the communities on Facebook are super large, though they’re mostly unengaged.

I decided to make the logo when shared yellow so that when it’s on someone's newsfeed they notice it immediately. I hoped that would increase engagement a bit. I also tried posting memes with my content but that didn’t work super well as it looked too much like an ad.

I posted about the website in about 10 facebook groups and got 37 signups by the next day. The facebook groups had 50k-100k members.

Over the next week I took about an hour each day to join Facebook groups relating to side hustles, online businesses etc. and would make some posts. This quickly started getting momentum.

I had a business friend whom I sometimes collaborate with share on indiehackers and reddit, he sometimes helps me on projects and is considering joining this project.

This technique of posting in groups and forums was pretty successful. People naturally engaged and checked out the website.

This amounted to getting 1,000 subscribers in the first 12 days.

Why it worked

So here’s why I think it worked…

Appeals to Maslow’s hierarchy of needs
Economic downturn beneficiary
Meaningful TAM

So #1 I find the best ideas historically appeal to Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. This means your product should appeal to helping people find love, making money or another core fundamental need that humans desire. In this case, people want to make more money so they may want to create a new business or side hustle.

#2 is that whenever there’s an economic downturn these hierarchical needs become exacerbated. Meaning, people lose their jobs and so they must figure out how to make more money. Downturns impact people's fundamental needs. They may no longer be able to afford their house, they may struggle to put food on the table etc. It’s harsh but there is an obvious shift in attention whenever there is an economic downturn.

#3 There’s a large population that has an interest in building a side hustle and/or business. I had a successful software website in the past that I bootstrapped and had instant product market fit on Reddit but the biggest issue was that it had such a limited TAM. It was too niche to a fault. This really limited the amount of attention it was able to get. Therefore I had to get out of it. This has the potential to appeal to a greater audience.

The Lesson

If you want to bootstrap something you need high momentum.

I read a book by LA Reid (music executive) who talked about signing Justin Bieber and that being the first time in his career he felt momentum like that. Kids would show up in troves at the mall for a chance to see Bieber. LA Reid had been working in music for 10+ years prior to this point. The natural pull that the world had towards Bieber was something he never experienced before.

The goal is to strive for the same feelings in your business. The world should pull for it. It should not be a push from your end, but a pull from their end.

This is just a matter of re-rolling the dice. Don't settle for boring ideas that are slogs and the world doesn't care about. The world will tell you when you have something epic. I've had multiple profitable online businesses and the common theme is the ones that takeoff always cost <$100 to get product/market fit and take only a few weeks to get there.

Sometimes my ego gets hurt when I put out an idea and no one likes it. Or I went way too over budget putting it together. But at the end of the day self awareness is your best friend and by holding onto a bad idea to save an ego you're the one that pays for it sooner or later (either in time or in money).

Anyways, pursue momentum driven ideas. Keep re-rolling until you hit something where you can feel the momentum.

Current numbers

link to subscribers and open rate

Next Steps

Next I'm going to start running ads on Reddit, Facebook/Instagram and Spark Ads.

If anyone has any advice on running newsletter ads please drop a tip below. Spark Ads especially are new to me and I need help!

check it out here: ExplodingIdeas.co

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    Nice work! Posting to Facebook groups is a strategy not many people here seem to do. I also like the thinking behind your yellow logo.

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      the internet is so oversaturated with promotions i'm surprised more people don't do it. also some people will use gifs on places like producthunt which apparently is pretty effective. anything to stand out and pattern interrupt peoples scrolling...

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        When everyone uses the same tricks to stand out, what does actually stand out?

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    super interesting. do you have a template to share?

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    I find that a lot of Facebook Group are very reluctant to let people share their page or product info. How you tackle that?

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      be creative in how you post. i wrote some examples in response to another one of these comments

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        Hiding authorship like in ""I'm looking for some new ideas to start like..." gets you an outright ban in the subreddits I follow. And they smell it miles away (many people do this).
        Good thing some communities are more naive than others...

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        yup, i read some of the strategies you used, brilliant!

  4. 1

    Great value! Check this article, it might give you some idea on how to boost your email marketing efforts: https://medium.com/@marketinflow/10-email-marketing-sequences-every-e-commerce-business-needs-to-boost-sale-c76f5f7e7ee8

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      thanks! this is helpful

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    Hey, I'm building CrossGrowth.io, where anyone having a newsletter can list it to find newsletters sharing a similar audience in order to cross promote it(or simply just to showcase the newsletter).

    I partially implemented the site, but not released yet, I'm planning to release a minimalist version with a list of newsletters. Can I add yours?

    Here is the landing page:

    https://www.indiehackers.com/post/roast-my-landing-page-crossgrowth-a-platform-to-cross-promoting-your-newsletter-4373b63671

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      yes. that would be great. let me know when it's live!

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        If you sign up http://crossgrowth.io/, you can prefill the details of your newsletter, so it will be live when the earliest release is published. It would be really nice if you also leave a feedback in the following thread, if you notice something that can be improved on the landing page:

        https://www.indiehackers.com/post/roast-my-landing-page-crossgrowth-a-platform-to-cross-promoting-your-newsletter-4373b63671

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          layout is complicated tbh i'm not sure where to add my newsletter it's just asking for my email

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            Actually, when you click the subscribe button is shows a modal where you can leave not only the email but also the newsletter details. I prefill that information so when the site is live, the account will be already created and linked to your email, so you can simply retrieve it using your email inbox.

            Maybe I over-complicated it, however I plan to release an early version in about 1-2 weeks.

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    Great work! I am actually building sponsorboost where you can find sponsors for your newsletter easily. Would you like to sign up for waitlist?

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      who are the sponsors that are signed up? depends on who is in the ecosystem

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        Started SponsorBoost on 14th April, so far Noosa Labs. Working on bringing others on the platform.

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    What platform are you using for the newsletter and tracking of it?

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      i built the website in nextjs and are managing the newsletter on beehiiv. they have analytics etc. built in. for my last newsletter i had a couple years ago i used omnisend which was a plugin for shopify. i chose beehiiv this time around mainly b/c it seemed cheap and i kept hearing about it on twitter. i built my own landing page for conversion so I figured if i didn't like beehiiv i could always switch it but honestly i've been fine with it so far...

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      prob better to post this in relevant reddit/facebook groups tbh

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        Love your casual responses to these spammers! haha

  9. 1

    Well laid out document, thanks for sharing your journey. Worth pursuing.

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      no prob! glad you enjoyed it hopefully it offered some kind of value

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    Wow, excellent results! Could you share the template you used for posting on FB groups?

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      Yea so #1 I always do it off the cuff. Meaning not contrived or preplanned. I go to a group and create something <2 sentences that is a disguised ad.

      Here's an example...

      "I'm looking for some new ideas to start a side hustle, i've been thinking about trends.co or explodingideas.co has anyone had experience with either of these?"

      naturally some people will go check out what i'm talking about and report back on if they've tried it and their thoughts. the idea is to capture them via value prop when they go check out my site as it's free compared to trends.co which is around $200 - $300 a year.

      hope this helps...

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    Thanks this was really interesting. For your posts on the facebook groups, how did you avoid being to spammy or almost "drive by" and just dropping a link? Basically what did you do to get that engagement on those groups?

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      hey great question. so on facebook you basically have to disguise the ad as interaction. there's so much noise on facebook that you need to post something super short/sweet and worth engaging with.

      for this in the online business groups I posted something along the lines of
      "I'm looking for some new ideas to start a side hustle, i've been thinking about trends.co or explodingideas.co has anyone had experience with either of these?"

      the idea is to get them to check out my site at that point and pique their interest.

      on the other hand for my software site I had I did something similar I went to music groups and said "i have some free [insert software product] drop your email if you want them" and i would send them to peoples email. this specific product rode a wave in music in a super niche space. I bought the domain for the keyword so i kinda had it in the bag by default so just needed a great product beyond the market that was forming etc. It was kind of amazing this niche in music was super engaged. I would sometimes get 100-150 emails on a post within one of these facebook groups. if it weren't for the poor TAM i'd still own it today most likely.

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        Awesome. Thanks for sharing all this info

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      interested in this as well!

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        just replied above! let me know if you need more detail

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          thanks for all the details! will take it into account and see how I can apply it to my project.

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    Shows the power of facebook groups. Have seen a lot of newsletters grow this way.

    Fb ads seems to work best fof any newsletter.

    Add fb ads with upscribe and you can break even the very first day.

    Damn. Thanks for sharing. All the best 👍

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      do you have experience with upscribe?

      i hear Matt Mcgarry talk about it in his newsletter but haven't tried it yet.

      do you have any tips for it? does it look like i'm pushing someone elses product in an unprofessional way? that's the main thing i'm worried about when using something like that, authenticity and brand perception.

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        Make sure to link only the newsletters you think your audience would love.

        Here is a thread to help you with the process: https://twitter.com/louisnicholls_/status/1619020810043408389?t=NhD-GUHt2MPxuHVajs5w9Q&s=19

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          this is super interesting. is it code i install on my nextjs site or something i embed in my email html?

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            curious how to integrate if you know?

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    congrats on the momentum

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    Did the same thing, roughly same audience size (different topic). Around 50 subscribers in 1 month, 8 of which didn't even confirm the email.

    I poured HUNDREDS of hours, with advice directly drawn from peer-reviewed research that I never saw outside academic circles. People that DO actually read my content praised it.
    But NO ONE is willing to put the 3 minutes it takes to differentiate actual value from the same rehashed crappy advice that everyone posts everywhere.
    Everyone scrolls trough and assumes is just another clickbait blablabla.

    Plus, FB and Reddit groups tend to have heavy rules against posting own content.

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      execution is everything...

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