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How Christina Nicholson sold her podcast directory for six figures

Every entrepreneurial journey has its own unique origin. Christina Nicholson's experience creating and growing Podcast Clout is noteworthy because she started the business to solve a very specific challenge she faced as a PR professional. Her journey stands out as a vibrant narrative of ingenuity and innovation.

She didn't have lofty ambitions for Podcast Clout. She simply created it because no one else had solved this problem within the industry.

Christina's story highlights her reliance on intuition, innovation, and problem-solving, driven by personal passion. She leveraged her industry insights to create an indispensable tool she and her team needed, not primarily as a business venture, but as a tool to amplify their work.

Christina's journey from the creation of Podcast Clout to a six-figure exit provides valuable insight that shows the possibility of turning personal aspirations into successful ventures, even without prior experience in software development or website creation.

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Identifying a Need and Creating Podcast Clout

In entrepreneurship, significant breakthroughs often result from identifying and addressing unmet needs. Christina Nicholson's experience with Podcast Clout is a perfect example.

Christina’s journey began in the world of public relations, where she noticed a glaring omission in the tools available. “In PR, there is software that helps publicists find contact information. All the software was missing podcasts,” she explains. While there were some podcast databases, they were listing millions, overwhelming PR professionals in their search for quality connections.

Although podcasts provide excellent opportunities for PR, identifying the right opportunities for clients was cumbersome and time-consuming. Over a period of a few years, Christina reached out to several companies that produced PR software and asked them to include podcasts, but it never happened.

Driven by her industry experience, Christina envisioned a solution focused solely on top-ranked podcasts - a database prioritizing quality over quantity. With no existing platform aligned with her vision, she took matters into her own hands. “One that did filtering didn't already exist, so I had it created,” she explains.

Podcast Clout website

Christina sought help from experienced individuals in technology and software to bring her vision for Podcast Clout to life. Her goal was to create a platform that made it easy for PR professionals to identify leading podcasts in various industries so they could pitch their clients as potential guests.

Notably, Christina's initial financial investment in bringing Podcast Clout to life was modest. "I don't think I paid more than $2,500 to have the website created," she says. However, she soon realized that building and maintaining a software platform was more complex than expected.

The initial site had a lot of problems, so she hired another developer on a monthly retainer to make the needed changes and maintain the site.

Growing the Business

Because Christina started Podcast Clout primarily for her own needs, growing the business was not her top priority. She never aggressively marketed or promoted the business. However, she did have success with natural and subtle promotions.

Podcast Clout is monetized through user subscriptions. PR professionals or agencies pay a subscription fee for access to the database of podcasts. Christina knew Podcast Clout was needed within the industry, and it was just a matter of getting it in front of the right people.

To do this, Christina harnessed the power of social engagement in niche communities, especially Facebook Groups. In these forums, she engaged with PR professionals and answered their questions about finding podcasts for pitching. Whenever someone would ask how others found podcasts or contact information, she'd mention Podcast Clout.

This unique strategy yielded results that proved the inherent demand for Podcast Clout. The platform, designed to simplify podcast discovery for PR professionals, struck a chord with its target audience. It wasn't long before Podcast Clout gained traction and recognition within the PR community.

With no direct competitors offering the same value as Podcast Clout, this side business grew organically without heavy promotion.

The Decision to Sell

Despite the platform's initial success and recognition within the community, Christina Nicholson found herself at a crossroads, contemplating the future of her venture.

"My heart wasn't in it," Christina reflects on the juncture that led to her decision to sell Podcast Clout. Although she had brought a unique solution to life and witnessed its growth, she faced the reality that her passion had waned.

She never wanted to manage the program or be a developer. The primary driving force behind the creation of Podcast Clout was Christina's desire to use the program for her clients. Her genuine passion was still with her PR agency, Media Maven, and running Podcast Clout felt more like a distraction.

"I tried to learn how to grow software and joined a mastermind, but didn't want to execute what needed to be done," she explains. Christina's self-awareness had a significant impact on her decision-making process. She realized that her interest in the software industry was lacking, and after a thoughtful assessment, she determined it would be best to leave.

Christina's decision to sell Podcast Clout came when the platform was still profitable, mitigating the risks associated with a declining business. This strategic move allowed her to transition out of a venture that no longer aligned with her interests while preserving its value.

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Post-Sale Involvement and 10% Ownership

The decision to sell was not the end of her journey with Podcast Clout but a strategic pivot that allowed her to shift her focus to Media Maven. While parting ways with her brainchild through a six-figure exit, she kept a 10% ownership stake in the company, serving as a valuable advisor for the new owners.

As an advisor, Christina plays a crucial role, sharing her knowledge about PR and the podcast space, and offering strategic guidance to the new owners. "I'm filling them in on what I see in the PR and podcast space, making lots of introductions to my contacts, and creating some contact for the Podcast Clout audience," she explains.

As she continues to advise and collaborate with the new owners, Nicholson's entrepreneurial journey remains a growing narrative. Her experience is a testament to recognizing when it's time to transition, keeping a stake in the venture, and contributing to its future success meaningfully.

Conclusion

Christina Nicholson's journey was not that of a seasoned software founder. Instead, it was that of an industry insider who identified a need and brought a solution to life. Her story proves that entrepreneurship doesn't always follow a predetermined path - it often emerges from recognizing opportunities and acting upon them.

As Nicholson continues to advise the new owners of Podcast Clout, her story serves as a testament to the enduring spirit of entrepreneurship - a narrative that reminds us to recognize opportunities, learn from experiences, and thrive by pursuing endeavors aligned with our passions and, at times, outside our comfort zones.

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    Your role as an advisor after the sale gives the story a significant depth. A motivational tale about seizing chances and coordinating endeavours with enthusiasm.

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      True that. A very genuine story.

      It's great to see the multiple exit styles, and thus narratives in entrepreneurship. Some of us, like to build prototypes and some semblance of scale, others we like seeing through continuous YoY growth, etc.

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    Amazing article, thank you Marc Andre, thank you Nicholson for sharing, I'm in the podcast space myself, and I built an app that let's people share their podcast episodes with each other with notes and stuff, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.curator would love to hear some feedbacks

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    Amazing story. So much to learn from. Thanks for bringing it

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      You're welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  4. 2

    Amazing story! Thanks for sharing it.

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    I just started a blog content repurposing service targeting B2B podcasters, and I was looking for ways to get top podcasters' info to get feedback from as a form of outreach so thanks for sharing. The prices are just unfortunately too high for me.

    Right now, I'm in 4 Facebook groups that are engaged groups, such as 'Podcast movement community' and 'podcasts we listen to' and building up conversations through marketing questions and posting examples of pods that repurpose well to try to generate leads; also finding through Twitter keyword searches like #podernfamily, Linkedin groups and newsletters like https://podup.substack.com/ which is sending me new podcasts every week.

    I think that posting examples around repurposing content could generate the right convos I need to generate leads and sales.

    Facebook groups seem to have the most engaged podcast community out of the different communities I've followed so far. However, not everyone B2B focused and I still haven't generated leads yet( its only been 2 days)

    Whats your suggestions for generating leads for my type of service?

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      Have you tried creating any case studies? If you're just starting, you might not have the data for it yet, but I would pick a podcast that you think has excellent potential for getting results with your service. Offer to do it at a deep discount or even free if you can share the results to promote your services. Then, get results, write a case study to show the results, and promote that in the groups or approach podcasters individually about it.

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        I will try this cold email strategy with bigger podcasters

        1. Question about specific content they mentioned in an episode to increase the reply rate
        2. Follow up with feedback on my service
        3. Get an idea of their thoughts on it
        4. Tell them about my offer, free or discounted depending on number 3
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          The examples i add to my b2b marketing gallery are sort of case studies for this. I've generated blog posts around podcasts I've listened to and distributed them which brought me 40k views just from a 2-minute post off their 60-minute pod

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    Wow, love how you told this story!

    Also this monetization strategy seems pretty unique for a directory

    Podcast Clout is monetized through user subscriptions. PR professionals or agencies pay a subscription fee for access to the database of podcasts

    Great post :)

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      I wasn't familiar with Podcast Clout when it launched, but I know there are a few others now, and the ones I know are all monetized in the same way. The PR users are the people who benefit the most from it and would be most willing to pay.

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    Passively created a business that led to a fair exit. How long was the journey?

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      Launched in 2020, sold in 2023.

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    I like this story too much.

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